So this is a new section of the website where the owner gets to have a bit of a rant about things on his mind. I’m going to try and focus on “hot topics” of the moment. Perhaps posts from the forums that have started a bit of debate or just things in the news that have raised an eyebrow. The theory is that this will be a regular feature so if you want to contribute an article yourself, please follow the links from the article listings page to “Write/Submit Article”
Big Issue
To start off for my first article I’m going to discuss ticket prices and the ever increasing financial burden being put on the shoulders of Maiden fans.
This subject came to light last week as Maiden announced their upcoming World Tour. I went to Ticketmaster to buy a single standing ticket for Newcastle only to find the tickets were being priced at £32.50 EACH but the cost doesn’t end there of course. Ticketmaster and GetLive.co.uk (where I eventually bought my tickets from) charge an additional £4.50 per ticket. THEN - and this is the bit that nearly had me falling off my chair – they wanted to charge me for delivery. Fine OK £4.50 for secure registered delivery that’s a bit expensive but understandable but there were two other cheaper but more ludicrous options. The first was a £1 fee to pick your tickets up at the box office. Fair enough but I don’t have the time to go and do that the second was £1.90 for them to email your tickets to you. You would then need to print out the tickets with your own ink in order to get into the show. £1.90 for an EMAIL? Are they having a laugh? What financial burden does an email incur them exactly? This is on top of the £4.50 booking fee which to this day I still don’t understand how they justify that.
OK so for some reason I went for the email because it was most convenient so total cost so far: £38.90
So then there’s travelling to the gig. This will cost me approximately £30. Fortunately I will be able to stay at my parents for the evening so I don’t have to pay for accommodation. Total cost so far £68.90
Merchandising! Of course it’s not a Maiden gig unless you can say you “were there” by owning the officially endorsed shirt with the tour dates on. Last Maiden show I went to was on the Dance of Death tour and I was astonished to find the t-shirts which Maiden get printed in batches of probably around 10,000 for a bulk price of no more than £5 a shirt, were being sold for £25! This is for your regular black two sided short sleeved t-shirt. That’s a £20 mark-up by my guess. The long sleeved t-shirts I think were £30 and all over prints £35. Programmes are now £10 I think. £10 for a 10 page booklet with photos in it!? OK so I get a t-shirt and a programme then, total cost so far £103.90
Of course before then I have to buy the new album. Price £15.00 (approximately) total price now £118.90.
So this year I’m looking to almost £120 on Maiden alone. That’s a lot of money in my book but is it justified? OK you can argue I could go to Sheffield instead of Newcastle and I’d save on petrol. You could argue I don’t NEED to buy a t-shirt, hell; you could argue I don’t NEED to go to the gig at all! Point is though; this is an average fan doing what the average fan does. Is it too much? Are we all being ripped off or is this what things cost now?
OK well lets compare this to 1998. 8 years ago and the last tour with Blaze Bayley. My memory is hazy but this is roughly what I would have spent doing the same thing back then.
Gig ticket £22.50 Travel £20 (based on the same journey at 1998 petrol prices) T-Shirt £15 Programme £5 Album £12 Total cost: £74.50
What’s Going On?
That’s a 62% price increase in 8 years. OK so there’s inflation but that doesn’t justify it. The main obvious reason is basic rules of supply and demand. Fact is in 1998 there were less people coming to see Maiden than there are now. Compare the venues, Newcastle City Hall in 98 (capacity around 2,000) to Newcastle Arena (capacity around 11250). If people will pay the money then they can charge the money. So maybe that’s fair enough?
But let’s look outside of the gig box for one minute. In the last 8 years Iron Maiden have released 2 studio albums, 2 live albums, 2 best of’s (Edward the great and The Essential Iron Maiden), 4 DVD’s and one box set (Eddies Archive). That’s a lot of stuff and that’s not including the singles of which there are typically 3 different formats per single. Maiden have also promised to release a live album of every album from now till the end of the band.
The powers that be clearly see Iron Maiden as a marketing device and a way to make a LOT of money. It’s been this way ever since Bruce and Adrian came back into the band – why do you think the band got back together in the first place? In my opinion as a long time observer, it wasn’t because Steve suddenly thought, “wouldn’t it be great if we had Bruce back instead of Blaze?” and Bruce is unlikely to have swallowed his pride and said, “my solo project isn’t working and I’m not having fun, I really should get back with Steve and the boys”. No it was in my opinion, all down to Rod saying, “come on guys bury the hatchet and lets make some great music” while in the back of his mind he knew that Maiden weren’t making the money they were in the 80’s and enough time had passed for a reunion to be a “big thing” and a “return to the great times of Powerslave and Seventh Son”. And if that’s the case he was right because that’s exactly what has happened. Maiden are selling out festivals and arenas instead of City Halls and albums are going Platinum instead of selling a few thousand copies. The exact same thing has happened to Priest and I wouldn’t be surprised if the same thing has at least been attempted with Helloween. Money talks.
The Voice of Reason
OK so taking all that into consideration and taking a deep breath for a minute let’s try and come to some kind of conclusion.
Like it or not music is no longer “all about the music”. It has been happening for a while and it will keep on happening as long as the fans of these bands keep buying it. It’s one thing to have a bit of a whinge and say “Maiden are ripping off the fans”, it’s completely another to actually say, “No that’s too much money and I don’t need to buy it”. Yes it’s nice to say you own everything Maiden have ever released but if that’s how you want to be then you can’t complain about the quantity of merchandise being released. A few years ago I stopped myself and said – why do I need to get this? Since then there have been a number of singles, DVD’s and live albums I’ve let pass me by. It’s not because I don’t love the band – of course I do, I wouldn’t be doing this website if I didn’t – it’s just I looked at it, listened to it or whatever and said it’s not worth the money. Rock in Rio is an example. In my opinion it’s a bad live album so I didn’t buy it. I’m yet to buy Death on the Road but will likely pick it up on DVD at some point.
Maiden and Sanctuary are allowed to do whatever they want and they WILL keep doing it as long as it sells. And to be honest, as long as it’s quality merchandise, I will keep buying it as well. In the end, Maiden are there to make music and Sanctuary are there to make money from Maiden’s success. And who can blame them? We’re doing the same! Check out the “Support Maidenfans” box on the left of the site, are we just as bad? What do you think?
Please comment on this article and let us know YOUR thoughts.
49 Comments
I think the whole 'Bruce leaves Maiden-thing' was contrived. You'll never believe what a good strategist Rod Smallwood is. It's proven that the guy thinks years ahead. This was all planned following the shoes of Purple with Gillan. So, take a look at Deep Purple nowadays and that's what we might see in Maiden 15 years from now. Steve Harris, Nicko (if age permits) and Dave (oh, and the tireless Janick). The rest will be substitutes. A decaf version of Maiden. Bruce will be the equivalent of Ritchie Blackmore and Adrian the equivalent of Jon Lord or Roger Glover.
well, for me personally it`s all about having fun, listening to the best band ever! I think I talk for many Maidenfans when I say they``re worth the hard work of being a Maidenfan!
Remember Tomorrow...
Remember Tomorrow...
Iron Maiden - Reassuringly expensive
like Stella Artois....only much better...
I'm glad to have Bruce and H back and to see the back of Blaze...money was surely a part, but it was what most fans wanted so I dont see a problem.
like Stella Artois....only much better...
I'm glad to have Bruce and H back and to see the back of Blaze...money was surely a part, but it was what most fans wanted so I dont see a problem.
Plus the bomb you'd have to pay to take a handful of lovely ladies to the show with you... as well as the unbelievable amount of cash you'd have to pay Nicko as a bribe to let you have a ten-minute shot on his kit if you promised to turn up 4 hours before the show... that's the two other things you'd be paying for if you were me anyway - hehay! So that's the incredible price you've already payed, plus another bomb for all the women you're escorting (or who are escorting you) to the show, plus a couple of wallets-full for the bash on Nicko's drums. It'll certainly leave a huge hole in your wallet, that's for sure. Great piece of writing, lots of good hard research has gone into this, and for this I award the five-star rating. Good work my metal friend - Nicko JR
Fact of the matter is, we live in a consumer society. We all like to spend money on things, whether they're experiences like gigs or a product like an album-we are lucky enough in our part of the globe to be able to afford luxuries. The record companies (or whichever organisation is setting the prices for a luxury good/service) knows this, and they know that they can get away with ridiculous prices with us. If the price of petrol went up 20p tomorrow, would people stop using cars? No! They'd complain, but they'd pay, because they can afford it and it's worth paying out for that extra bit of luxury. Same thing goes for us. We complain that we're spending over £100 on Maiden in any given year, but will we draw the line and refuse to pay for a gig? No, because we know, deep down, that it's worth every penny. As long as the record companies keep their prices high enough to reap the rewards of Maiden's hard work and low enough to keep us satisfied, they'll be able to sit on their piles of cash while people like Clive Burr have to rely on old friends' help to survive. As a final note, for every £16.99 you spend on a new CD album in a record store:
About £1 goes to the musician/artist/group
About £5 goes to the record store/retailer
(HMV/Virgin etc.)
About £1 goes to the artist who designed the cover/interior artwork
£10.99 goes to the record company
And this is the sad state of the music industry today, my friends.
About £1 goes to the musician/artist/group
About £5 goes to the record store/retailer
(HMV/Virgin etc.)
About £1 goes to the artist who designed the cover/interior artwork
£10.99 goes to the record company
And this is the sad state of the music industry today, my friends.
it s fucking marketing that sucks........unfortunately our band is very inside the system as most of bands .....from the othar hand you see some artists like manu chao, to let their music FREE in internet........but us, we have to pay even £10 to read kev's diary......fuck ! i really don t care i m a working man i pay one Lp, one concert and that's all.........i m also dissapointed for other shit like : 1) booklets= not enough good 2) eddie = where is he really 6 years now ? (eg in singles) 3) concert playlists = the same songs 4) bruce says words about matallica, but at least they let free their live music _________forget it about boys and girls, it's not pure this shit is an industry, and maiden instead to be independent group as they could do, they are hidding allways behind emi and sanctuary_________but ok they do good work since they r back all together, and we r happy even if management sucks, because bad days may come again, and we don t want it right? let s appreciate now that the boys are doing fine, anyway they don t need us to survive, they have solve their problem long time ago !! it s us that we count every euro (well i count in euros) to get along every month, times go worst and worst, and they don t even offer us this fucking diary ...i think they don t see the signs of this new age, and as allmost all in music industry they r living in their ancient worlds......the cost of one cd is of 0.3€ lets rise it 20 times for everyone to get his piece, we have 6€ ......but we pay ~18€ the cd = 60 times over cost_____the same happens with books, after i think 80 years there r no copyrights, that means for book more than 100 years old we had to pay just for ink and paper = 0.2€ but no we pay for get one schekesphere piece like if he was alive!!______it sucks so so much
it s me again....having a favorite group is a kind of sickness, for this all these releases from everywhere, they feed us....next big artists will spread their music freely, and anyway art isn t related with buisness, art is expression, I have so many friends that they don t have not one chance in a million to succed with their art and they continue do it against all odds.......they even give it for free allthought the production's expences!! I m out of this shit, just maiden is my chilhood band and I do them this favore, because it s a favore these days one to give so many money for things that one should had for free
Well I think that people are going to complain and not everyone is going to be satisfied. If Maiden had not reunited there would have been people praying that they would. If Maiden would have not released an album since Brave New World-2000 then people would have been complaining that is 6 years already, etc., etc.
After all Iron Maiden did not disband after BNW.
Iron Maiden have been more active since 1999 and of course they have Dickinson and Smith to get them going. They have to satisfy what their fans want and they are doing it. If you want to pay for it, then you will and vice versa.
After all Iron Maiden did not disband after BNW.
Iron Maiden have been more active since 1999 and of course they have Dickinson and Smith to get them going. They have to satisfy what their fans want and they are doing it. If you want to pay for it, then you will and vice versa.
Well I think that people are going to complain and not everyone is going to be satisfied. If Maiden had not reunited there would have been people praying that they would. If Maiden would have not released an album since Brave New World-2000 then people would have been complaining that is 6 years already, etc., etc.
After all Iron Maiden did not disband after BNW.
Iron Maiden have been more active since 1999 and of course they have Dickinson and Smith to get them going. They have to satisfy what their fans want and they are doing it. If you want to pay for it, then you will and vice versa.
After all Iron Maiden did not disband after BNW.
Iron Maiden have been more active since 1999 and of course they have Dickinson and Smith to get them going. They have to satisfy what their fans want and they are doing it. If you want to pay for it, then you will and vice versa.
hey wat the hell maybe they need a little more money so let em have it. who knows maybe they want to help clive out a little ang give him some money to get buy... after all he was on ther 3 best cds: iron maiden, killers, and number of the beast. i say let em have the money iron maidens worth it
ill give you some credit, they are just doin this mostley for money but what if they need some more cash or maybe the want to help clive a little
Theyre not doing anything out of the Norm, all bands are charging through the roof these days. Metal fans in the Uk have been ripped off for years. Comparing 2006-1998 is pretty bad - the band were on a downward spiral, metal was unpopular. Its like comparing 1998 to 1988. You cant do it. Times change.
One thing i do agree on is the booking fee's. I recently bought, Whitesnake, Maiden, Motorhead, Nugent, Monsters of Rock, Download tickets, and the booking fee's almost totalled 35 quid.
One thing i do agree on is the booking fee's. I recently bought, Whitesnake, Maiden, Motorhead, Nugent, Monsters of Rock, Download tickets, and the booking fee's almost totalled 35 quid.
Theyre not doing anything out of the Norm, all bands are charging through the roof these days. Metal fans in the Uk have been ripped off for years. Comparing 2006-1998 is pretty bad - the band were on a downward spiral, metal was unpopular. Its like comparing 1998 to 1988. You cant do it. Times change.
One thing i do agree on is the booking fee's. I recently bought, Whitesnake, Maiden, Motorhead, Nugent, Monsters of Rock, Download tickets, and the booking fee's almost totalled 35 quid.
One thing i do agree on is the booking fee's. I recently bought, Whitesnake, Maiden, Motorhead, Nugent, Monsters of Rock, Download tickets, and the booking fee's almost totalled 35 quid.
To those who said that perhaps Maiden need money for Clive. Honestly if Mr. Harris wants to help his friend, he can sell his house in Portugal ( or Spain, don't remember ) and give him the bloody money! We pay to see them. We're not even sure that the money they make will go to charity.
To those who said that perhaps Maiden need money for Clive. Honestly if Mr. Harris wants to help his friend, he can sell his house in Portugal ( or Spain, don't remember ) and give him the bloody money! We pay to see them. We're not even sure that the money they make will go to charity.
To those who said that perhaps Maiden need money for Clive. Honestly if Mr. Harris wants to help his friend, he can sell his house in Portugal ( or Spain, don't remember ) and give him the bloody money! We pay to see them. We're not even sure that the money they make will go to charity.
Ah sh*t I must have done something sorry about that.
stop whinging you little bitches!!!
If you dont think its value for money dont go
If you dont think its value for money dont go
You are so right.In Finland a tour tshirt costs nothing more than 40euros and some are even 45euros! And whats with the IMOC?? God damn..
You are so right.In Finland a tour tshirt costs nothing more than 40euros and some are even 45euros! And whats with the IMOC?? God damn..
You are so right.In Finland a tour tshirt costs nothing more than 40euros and some are even 45euros! And whats with the IMOC?? God damn..
You are so right.In Finland a tour tshirt costs nothing more than 40euros and some are even 45euros! And whats with the IMOC?? God damn..
To be totally fair to maiden, the huge booking fees/postage costs are not their choice. Thats ticketmaster for you.
you obviously have way too much time on your hands. stop ranting and get out and do some excercise. I understand that this comment is harsh and that your article is completely true but its not going to change anything. the fact that youve spent your time writing out this big article is quite worrying. the internet is indeed a great tool but nothing is more annoying than people who think having freinds and a 'life' on the net is a good thing.....those people should think again. however, if this is honestly the way you wish to live your life then I suppose you must follow your true feelings. sorry feel like I had to say something. cheers
Supporting your favourite band sometimes is a pain in the rear end. Well-established bands like Maiden are a monopoly market, bit like a football team. I have just paid shy of £80 for crap seats for the Sheffield gig in December and feel crappy for doing so. I had planned to drive up to the Newcastle one too and attend with some old school mates, but quite frankly at £40 a ticket when Maiden do exactly the same show every night just isn't worth it. Its not like other products where if I'm not satisfied I can go else where. there is no 'other' Iron Maiden I can go and see who offer better ticket prices or a longer show. There is no competition, its like if you want to see you're favourite band who you have supported all your teenage/adult life, we are going to penalize you by charing you a fortune. From my first getting into Maiden (FOTD tour) right through to the reunion, I would attend at least 3 nights of any tour and travel abroad to see them at least once. I'd buy all formats of all singles and albums and anything else I could lay my hands on. As time has moved on I grow more and more weary of my favourite band of so-called working-class heroes, charging more and more for less and less. Singles aren;t worht buying anymore as B-Sides are usually rubbish remixes (who cares about them really) or live versions which crop us on other stuff later anyway. The last DVD, which I eagerly anticipated didn;t bloody work on my machine and as far as I know the fault still hasn't been fixed. I paid a fortune to go see them in Dublin last year and the band played well but the sound quality was so bad you couldn;t hear Dave's solos. They always announce the UK dates just long-enough after some fan club sponsered trip abroad has sold enough tickets.
I love Maiden and always will, but I feel like I'm getting cheated on value for money. 'Arry is meant to be a salt-of-the-earth working class type, I'm sure he's made enough money now (all of them have) that he could commit his band to cheaper ticket prices. Don;t even get me started on the piss-poor quality of the official fan-club.
I love Maiden and always will, but I feel like I'm getting cheated on value for money. 'Arry is meant to be a salt-of-the-earth working class type, I'm sure he's made enough money now (all of them have) that he could commit his band to cheaper ticket prices. Don;t even get me started on the piss-poor quality of the official fan-club.
It is all the same for the big selling groups.Maiden are co exception.You are right about Bruce and Adrian.
i agree about the ticketmaster thing. they rip customers off at every opportunity, remember a few years ago when they were talking bout AUCTIONING tickets?? WTF??
also, who books maidens tours and decides venues? i'm from Belfast, and back in the 1970s i could understand why bands never came here. but now that the city is having a huge revival with stacks of bands playing here, why are maiden still only playing Dublin?
considering that Maiden played small venues in Belfast quite often in the 80s/90s, and the newest venue in Belfst (the Odyssey Arena) has a much bigger capacity than the Point Depot in Dublin, why play smaller venues in Dublin? it makes financial sense to play the bigger venues, because Maiden WILL sell them out.
look at it this way - august 2005, maiden sell 20,000 ish tickets for the Dublin RDS.
December 2006 - maiden sell out the Point dublin which only holds about 8000. Oddyssey Arena Belfst holds 12,000. Thats a shit-load of disappointed fans.
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also, who books maidens tours and decides venues? i'm from Belfast, and back in the 1970s i could understand why bands never came here. but now that the city is having a huge revival with stacks of bands playing here, why are maiden still only playing Dublin?
considering that Maiden played small venues in Belfast quite often in the 80s/90s, and the newest venue in Belfst (the Odyssey Arena) has a much bigger capacity than the Point Depot in Dublin, why play smaller venues in Dublin? it makes financial sense to play the bigger venues, because Maiden WILL sell them out.
look at it this way - august 2005, maiden sell 20,000 ish tickets for the Dublin RDS.
December 2006 - maiden sell out the Point dublin which only holds about 8000. Oddyssey Arena Belfst holds 12,000. Thats a shit-load of disappointed fans.
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i agree about the ticketmaster thing. they rip customers off at every opportunity, remember a few years ago when they were talking bout AUCTIONING tickets?? WTF??
also, who books maidens tours and decides venues? i'm from Belfast, and back in the 1970s i could understand why bands never came here. but now that the city is having a huge revival with stacks of bands playing here, why are maiden still only playing Dublin?
considering that Maiden played small venues in Belfast quite often in the 80s/90s, and the newest venue in Belfst (the Odyssey Arena) has a much bigger capacity than the Point Depot in Dublin, why play smaller venues in Dublin? it makes financial sense to play the bigger venues, because Maiden WILL sell them out.
look at it this way - august 2005, maiden sell 20,000 ish tickets for the Dublin RDS.
December 2006 - maiden sell out the Point dublin which only holds about 8000. Oddyssey Arena Belfst holds 12,000. Thats a shit-load of disappointed fans.
also, who books maidens tours and decides venues? i'm from Belfast, and back in the 1970s i could understand why bands never came here. but now that the city is having a huge revival with stacks of bands playing here, why are maiden still only playing Dublin?
considering that Maiden played small venues in Belfast quite often in the 80s/90s, and the newest venue in Belfst (the Odyssey Arena) has a much bigger capacity than the Point Depot in Dublin, why play smaller venues in Dublin? it makes financial sense to play the bigger venues, because Maiden WILL sell them out.
look at it this way - august 2005, maiden sell 20,000 ish tickets for the Dublin RDS.
December 2006 - maiden sell out the Point dublin which only holds about 8000. Oddyssey Arena Belfst holds 12,000. Thats a shit-load of disappointed fans.
i agree about the ticketmaster thing. they rip customers off at every opportunity, remember a few years ago when they were talking bout AUCTIONING tickets?? WTF??
also, who books maidens tours and decides venues? i'm from Belfast, and back in the 1970s i could understand why bands never came here. but now that the city is having a huge revival with stacks of bands playing here, why are maiden still only playing Dublin?
considering that Maiden played small venues in Belfast quite often in the 80s/90s, and the newest venue in Belfst (the Odyssey Arena) has a much bigger capacity than the Point Depot in Dublin, why play smaller venues in Dublin? it makes financial sense to play the bigger venues, because Maiden WILL sell them out.
look at it this way - august 2005, maiden sell 20,000 ish tickets for the Dublin RDS.
December 2006 - maiden sell out the Point dublin which only holds about 8000. Oddyssey Arena Belfst holds 12,000. Thats a shit-load of disappointed fans.
also, who books maidens tours and decides venues? i'm from Belfast, and back in the 1970s i could understand why bands never came here. but now that the city is having a huge revival with stacks of bands playing here, why are maiden still only playing Dublin?
considering that Maiden played small venues in Belfast quite often in the 80s/90s, and the newest venue in Belfst (the Odyssey Arena) has a much bigger capacity than the Point Depot in Dublin, why play smaller venues in Dublin? it makes financial sense to play the bigger venues, because Maiden WILL sell them out.
look at it this way - august 2005, maiden sell 20,000 ish tickets for the Dublin RDS.
December 2006 - maiden sell out the Point dublin which only holds about 8000. Oddyssey Arena Belfst holds 12,000. Thats a shit-load of disappointed fans.
what you mean you paid £80 for crap seats for sheffield ? arena seats R allready sold out ? shit! I went to buy since the first day a ticket for the gig at paris, to be sure that I find ARENA ones and they R NOT numbered !! (it means I have to go hours before to be in arena.............shit!)
but I paid 40 something € only
you know, it s not an obligation to buy even the album (of course's SO difficult to resist) you copy it from a friend......they have enough money even for their grand children, better to worry for me & you.....dave was swimming in hawai waters last week, what about you ?
and yes I agree, they have to pay more attention to the quality to their web page(renew the so old version) as long as bootlets (how poor was death on the road for example), singles artwork ect
of course it's painfull supporting a band, because is our sickness+ their marketing
but I paid 40 something € only
you know, it s not an obligation to buy even the album (of course's SO difficult to resist) you copy it from a friend......they have enough money even for their grand children, better to worry for me & you.....dave was swimming in hawai waters last week, what about you ?
and yes I agree, they have to pay more attention to the quality to their web page(renew the so old version) as long as bootlets (how poor was death on the road for example), singles artwork ect
of course it's painfull supporting a band, because is our sickness+ their marketing
Absolutely spot on. Maiden fans are the most loyal in the world and deserve better: but that is also the reason that they are exploited in this way. In the end it is our own fault for worshipping the band the way we do. Of course the reunion was fuelled by money, and just look at the way that Bruce is always on his own in the dvds, this is a marriage of convenience. In my opinion this next album is very important, following the disappointment of Dance of Death, will the fragile relationship between Bruce and the band hold after another poor album?
What a poor lot you are. Mean Steve Harris holding a pistol at your back, forcing you to buy all merchandise thinkable. That's really unfair!!!11!!1! :( I say stop all your f****in whining and bitchin'! Maiden gave all of you music that most likely (otherwise you probably wouldn't be reading this) enlightend you and gave and still gives you a real good time! Charging a few bucks per Cd. Pretty cheap for timeless music, eh? And now what do you think? Do you think they owe YOU for buying a Cd, when THEY allready delivered? You owe Maiden. Nobody forces you to buy shit! You think Maiden are doing their thing for fuckin' charity? Sorry clowns you are. Wake the fuck up! And by the way... BNW and DOD really sound like they were made only for a last cash-in, do they?(correct answer: "No, motherfucker!" ) If you don't like it, don't buy it. I bet a lot of you owns about 3204953 bootlegs (And if YOU, Real World, don't, your site offers a huge bootleg-thread). So other people that cash-in on Maiden are just fine, right? But Maiden themselves aren't allowed to earn money with their music? Seriously, you guys piss me off like you wouldn't believe! It's indeed for the love of music. Not in your case though... ...and hell yeah, Maiden are ressponsible for gas prices,too!!1!!!1!! they are so evil!!!!!11!!
wise the words above, but every body knows already .....you seem to forget that with one's beloved things one has to contradict rigit reviews to
fuck, when I think what feeling BNW has give to me !!.....and how lyric DOD was!!
but I still make my dreams .. dream and/ or projections of mirrors....
yes my friend I would like better CD covers/ artworks, more Eddie, more Bruce, more solos, more ideas, more creativity in the place of commerce.....but I understand the spirit to these words you wrote, and you r right....the thing is : do U understand the spirit of other people's words ? cause their right also!! if we didn t LOVE maiden we wouldn t be here
fuck, when I think what feeling BNW has give to me !!.....and how lyric DOD was!!
but I still make my dreams .. dream and/ or projections of mirrors....
yes my friend I would like better CD covers/ artworks, more Eddie, more Bruce, more solos, more ideas, more creativity in the place of commerce.....but I understand the spirit to these words you wrote, and you r right....the thing is : do U understand the spirit of other people's words ? cause their right also!! if we didn t LOVE maiden we wouldn t be here
"Personally, I am OK with the band cashing in on a remarkable career. My only regret is not ever seeing them live. Don't get me wrong, I have seen many great bands. I love a great rock show but it's hard to get Maiden to do a show in the US.If they do come here, they go to NY or California. I live in Florida and I personally apoligize for the election debochery. I will pay any price to see Maiden in concert as I am a life-long fan. I know they won't come here because of that Goddam Sharon Ozzbourne crap. May she burn in hell for sucking the life out him. I suppose they need one more run at the money but consider the alternative, more lame top 40 bands for $20.00 at the local disco errrr.... civic center.
I fundamentally disagree wi`th the premise of this article, that ticket prices are too high. You want to see too high?
MADONNA
THE EAGLES
RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS
Many othetr legendary bands charge upwards of £50 for tickets...just browse through the latest UK tours for other established stadium.arena acts.
Maiden could match this easily but at £32 base rate they are considerably more competitive than some peers.
MADONNA
THE EAGLES
RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS
Many othetr legendary bands charge upwards of £50 for tickets...just browse through the latest UK tours for other established stadium.arena acts.
Maiden could match this easily but at £32 base rate they are considerably more competitive than some peers.
I fundamentally disagree wi`th the premise of this article, that ticket prices are too high. You want to see too high?
MADONNA
THE EAGLES
RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS
Many othetr legendary bands charge upwards of £50 for tickets...just browse through the latest UK tours for other established stadium.arena acts.
Maiden could match this easily but at £32 base rate they are considerably more competitive than some peers.
MADONNA
THE EAGLES
RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS
Many othetr legendary bands charge upwards of £50 for tickets...just browse through the latest UK tours for other established stadium.arena acts.
Maiden could match this easily but at £32 base rate they are considerably more competitive than some peers.
How about that recent decision about North American tickets presale for only those who are a part of the fan club or the maiden online club. Or let's put it this way - for those who pay to be "bigger" Maiden fans. If that's not blackmail, I don't know what it is. Pay the membership fee and you're fine. I recently spoke with a friend of mine who was saving money from her birthday just to pay for a ticket to see Maiden and she was devastated at the thought of maybe missing them because of that presale. You tell me, is she less of a fan than those who have PAID to have the right to buy the tickets they want? I was furious and I still am in a way. Whoever is behind this (probably Mr Greedwood) is a greedy bastard trying to get the last possible cent out of the fans. Many people are comparing all these prices to Aerosmith, Madonna and who not, but when someone puts these artists next to Maiden, those same people would scream bloody murder. But when it's about spending they bring them out right away. Either way, Maiden management (I'm saying management and not the band cause of how much I respect them) is no different than that and it's all about the money. As another Maiden fan said to me once, I wish I could give the money directly to the band. Simple as that. Real World, thanks for the read.
How about that recent decision about North American tickets presale for only those who are a part of the fan club or the maiden online club. Or let's put it this way - for those who pay to be "bigger" Maiden fans. If that's not blackmail, I don't know what it is. Pay the membership fee and you're fine. I recently spoke with a friend of mine who was saving money from her birthday just to pay for a ticket to see Maiden and she was devastated at the thought of maybe missing them because of that presale. You tell me, is she less of a fan than those who have PAID to have the right to buy the tickets they want? I was furious and I still am in a way. Whoever is behind this (probably Mr Greedwood) is a greedy bastard trying to get the last possible cent out of the fans. Many people are comparing all these prices to Aerosmith, Madonna and who not, but when someone puts these artists next to Maiden, those same people would scream bloody murder. But when it's about spending they bring them out right away. Either way, Maiden management (I'm saying management and not the band cause of how much I respect them) is no different than that and it's all about the money. As another Maiden fan said to me once, I wish I could give the money directly to the band. Simple as that. Real World, thanks for the read.
How about that recent decision about North American tickets presale for only those who are a part of the fan club or the maiden online club. Or let's put it this way - for those who pay to be "bigger" Maiden fans. If that's not blackmail, I don't know what it is. Pay the membership fee and you're fine. I recently spoke with a friend of mine who was saving money from her birthday just to pay for a ticket to see Maiden and she was devastated at the thought of maybe missing them because of that presale. You tell me, is she less of a fan than those who have PAID to have the right to buy the tickets they want? I was furious and I still am in a way. Whoever is behind this (probably Mr Greedwood) is a greedy bastard trying to get the last possible cent out of the fans. Many people are comparing all these prices to Aerosmith, Madonna and who not, but when someone puts these artists next to Maiden, those same people would scream bloody murder. But when it's about spending they bring them out right away. Either way, Maiden management (I'm saying management and not the band cause of how much I respect them) is no different than that and it's all about the money. As another Maiden fan said to me once, I wish I could give the money directly to the band. Simple as that. Real World, thanks for the read.
How about that recent decision about North American tickets presale for only those who are a part of the fan club or the maiden online club. Or let's put it this way - for those who pay to be "bigger" Maiden fans. If that's not blackmail, I don't know what it is. Pay the membership fee and you're fine. I recently spoke with a friend of mine who was saving money from her birthday just to pay for a ticket to see Maiden and she was devastated at the thought of maybe missing them because of that presale. You tell me, is she less of a fan than those who have PAID to have the right to buy the tickets they want? I was furious and I still am in a way. Whoever is behind this (probably Mr Greedwood) is a greedy bastard trying to get the last possible cent out of the fans. Many people are comparing all these prices to Aerosmith, Madonna and who not, but when someone puts these artists next to Maiden, those same people would scream bloody murder. But when it's about spending they bring them out right away. Either way, Maiden management (I'm saying management and not the band cause of how much I respect them) is no different than that and it's all about the money. As another Maiden fan said to me once, I wish I could give the money directly to the band. Simple as that. Real World, thanks for the read.
How about that recent decision about North American tickets presale for only those who are a part of the fan club or the maiden online club. Or let's put it this way - for those who pay to be "bigger" Maiden fans. If that's not blackmail, I don't know what it is. Pay the membership fee and you're fine. I recently spoke with a friend of mine who was saving money from her birthday just to pay for a ticket to see Maiden and she was devastated at the thought of maybe missing them because of that presale. You tell me, is she less of a fan than those who have PAID to have the right to buy the tickets they want? I was furious and I still am in a way. Whoever is behind this (probably Mr Greedwood) is a greedy bastard trying to get the last possible cent out of the fans. Many people are comparing all these prices to Aerosmith, Madonna and who not, but when someone puts these artists next to Maiden, those same people would scream bloody murder. But when it's about spending they bring them out right away. Either way, Maiden management (I'm saying management and not the band cause of how much I respect them) is no different than that and it's all about the money. As another Maiden fan said to me once, I wish I could give the money directly to the band. Simple as that. Real World, thanks for the read.
How about that recent decision about North American tickets presale for only those who are a part of the fan club or the maiden online club. Or let's put it this way - for those who pay to be "bigger" Maiden fans. If that's not blackmail, I don't know what it is. Pay the membership fee and you're fine. I recently spoke with a friend of mine who was saving money from her birthday just to pay for a ticket to see Maiden and she was devastated at the thought of maybe missing them because of that presale. You tell me, is she less of a fan than those who have PAID to have the right to buy the tickets they want? I was furious and I still am in a way. Whoever is behind this (probably Mr Greedwood) is a greedy bastard trying to get the last possible cent out of the fans. Many people are comparing all these prices to Aerosmith, Madonna and who not, but when someone puts these artists next to Maiden, those same people would scream bloody murder. But when it's about spending they bring them out right away. Either way, Maiden management (I'm saying management and not the band cause of how much I respect them) is no different than that and it's all about the money. As another Maiden fan said to me once, I wish I could give the money directly to the band. Simple as that. Real World, thanks for the read.
that "i have to buy the booklet aswell" - whining was a little unnecessarry...
Well im fresh with adrenaline after seeing em in Camden Nj. We had a bit of trouble over there. Me and some ironheads grabbed a cheesesteak in philly and hit the parking lot and got drunk and the coppers chased us in the Tweeter center. Beers 6.50 and shirts 40.00 to park 15.00 ... so not toooo bad i guess but ... they played what 5 classics, no beast no hills, and Bruce told us that they were having problems and we would not see the main prop which really P.O.d alot of folks. I mean really pissed. When they left the stage for the final time the crowd actually groaned very disgruntled-like. I'll say this the songs they played rocked, and i mean fucking awesome man with the light show too OMG!!!! But the songs they didnt play hurt some feelings. And i know its not Maidens fault but not seeing the pinnacle of the stage show really really really really fucking sucked. Im a Ironhead and will be until the last shovel of dirt lulls me too sleep. I will pay what ever it takes to see em whether its for the money or not they maybe up in theyre careers but the musicianship in Camden made me feel young again and ive seen em 7 times. Hey guys ..... Up the Irons you rivet heads ... Thanks Real
Well im fresh with adrenaline after seeing em in Camden Nj. We had a bit of trouble over there. Me and some ironheads grabbed a cheesesteak in philly and hit the parking lot and got drunk and the coppers chased us in the Tweeter center. Beers 6.50 and shirts 40.00 to park 15.00 ... so not toooo bad i guess but ... they played what 5 classics, no beast no hills, and Bruce told us that they were having problems and we would not see the main prop which really P.O.d alot of folks. I mean really pissed. When they left the stage for the final time the crowd actually groaned very disgruntled-like. I'll say this the songs they played rocked, and i mean fucking awesome man with the light show too OMG!!!! But the songs they didnt play hurt some feelings. And i know its not Maidens fault but not seeing the pinnacle of the stage show really really really really fucking sucked. Im a Ironhead and will be until the last shovel of dirt lulls me too sleep. I will pay what ever it takes to see em whether its for the money or not they maybe up in theyre careers but the musicianship in Camden made me feel young again and ive seen em 7 times. Hey guys ..... Up the Irons you rivet heads ... Thanks Real
i hoenstly don't really think that it's maiden's choice to decide how much the tickets would go for. i also think they don't sell out, they seem like they're still around for the music and fans and not money and they still love doing it. i think you get what you pay for and when i saw Maiden 10/6/06, it was worth every bit of it. as for the tour merch, the people who sell it jack up the price because they know you can't get it anywhere else except that tour. most tour shirts were $35 each and as always, i had to buy one. but don't go blaming Maiden, I don't really think they have that much of a say in things, due to contracts and stuff like that
i hoenstly don't really think that it's maiden's choice to decide how much the tickets would go for. i also think they don't sell out, they seem like they're still around for the music and fans and not money and they still love doing it. i think you get what you pay for and when i saw Maiden 10/6/06, it was worth every bit of it. as for the tour merch, the people who sell it jack up the price because they know you can't get it anywhere else except that tour. most tour shirts were $35 each and as always, i had to buy one. but don't go blaming Maiden, I don't really think they have that much of a say in things, due to contracts and stuff like that
cant say i could complaine about ticket prices. there very decent compared to alot of bands. and yes the fan base is getting bigger but then again its been bigger than this befor. europes number 1 band and 1st metak band in indian and u grudge paying for a hotel travel etc to go to a gig ? sad rly 32.50 is cheep sum bands ive seen have been 45 quid. when i spend money on something i rly look forward to i dont take into acount cost but if i was t compare it to some other things i enjoy its very cheep. u try a night on the piss. 100 bucks easy and thats if i stay in my small town.
Anonymous — March 31, 2006
The bottom line is we chose to spend our money this way - which in the end justifies Maiden doing it. Because we have a choice.